Discussion of the Radioisotope Support Program

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Radioisotope Support Program: The ->eommi ttee thou AbbottXompany forriilext week. Plan n in t to buy iodine from Westinghouse. I would assume that control and monitoring of use would be relatively simpler i f it goes to industry. All licensed except those states which qualify. permits the AEC t o aake a deal with the state that they that they..have a compatible system of control for the control of isotopes. will .probably berone ofi-first states to qualify under that. part is going to be affected by whether ornot we subsidize the isotopes. There is alot on the books which Don ' t ' think the safety Joint Committee and that the Chairman of the Joint Committee a t that time is likely-:< t o become under the new Administration the same chairman? for cancer the conception o f DBM. Became 20% of cost proposition whereby AEC subsidizes 80%. uses i n medicine, agriculture, etc., made strong plea for subsidization for labeling materials for own biological and medical research. intoa recommendation which was directed to the Cds sion who was chairman of the Committee inthe framework of subsidizing labeling of isotoped but that we subsidize all of our isotopes in medici and agri cut ture. producers but a gc lot ron isotopes was restricted 50 AEC-rpdeevle- produced isotopes and also use subsidy by private organization. peaceful uses i n medicine and agriculture this March. This particular thing will probably come up. IZxixx Is it not true that this program was initiated at the request of the Became apparent that have wastage is free. At the first hearings on-peaceful In order to work this out and- there were no other important We are going t o have hearings on the Will be very helpdul tous. Bugher: Would it not be a wise thing t o do. the Joint Committee express itself. Marinelli: Do I un&rstand that one of disadvantages to discontinuing is that small colleges will not get help? Dunham: Only talking about $200,000. Real cost is in shipping containers. Let ride until hearings and let of organic compounds. Most of things bought under this program is that made up with few exceptions 95% of cost in processing. Moore: The difficulties of administering the program, complex a s they are and likely to become, constitute a small price to pay for the good will which goes t o the s a result of this subsidy. I think it most unwise i n The recommendation made bu ACEM (on page 18 of d r a f t paper) to put to the general public and the world at large to

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the much larger cost of tagging the compounds that are actually used in research produces the desired good will i f the program could be reconstructed and a policy of subsidy for the procurement of tagged compounds used in research,this,I think wou1, produce alot of good will for the AEC. Seems people who request the discount are the larger, more highly organized, isotope users. Not often we see one from a smaller college. I agree with Dr l Moore that good will of public for AEC is very h port ant Cannot see that paying the cost of the isotopes to 80% without paying for I believe I see most of the medical applications that come across my desk. FEDERAL RADIATION COUNCIL Have group for guidance on few selected internal emitters. book which came out was on whole body radiation. of 1-131; problem of uramium bn the mines and Sr-90 have not finished their deli be ratio getting en-new- all new data and hope they will come up with useful guide. they can continue and essentially do the work of the NCW and IC RPI think is questionYou will recall first This group is working on problem BERYLLIUM ADVISORY COMMITTEE Has been reactivated. going to try to enforce these contract ers ----- ,aaeh - the - suggest that maybe standar?ds could be relaxed a little bit. --- Question going t o be putto Committee: Is Commission still Sterner: This is not limited now solely to AEC interests. Dunham: Public and private groups now have interest in it. Bugher: Is there an increase in use of Beryllium in industry. Wouldn't it be appropriate t o raise question as to j advisability of using beryllium when there are othe choices of material much less toxic. The be might have some advantages but may.pr~duce major hazards in the industry. Lough: Would be a little cynical atthe moment. People interested in the control of safety and industrial plants will lose battle if ask something less desirable if for safety reasons. They would say t o come back with Project in Iowa now screening the rare earths. Might be a much greater VISIT TO GENEVA (UN Scientific Committee meeting) -- Meeting on population genetics went very well i n which geneticists and vital statistical people were drawn-ge-nthrown together for first time. Beliege results will be very good. The beginning of closer working geneticists throughout the country. Program developed by Kavalle, Staly, involving birth registration in that country carried on by their census authorities. ing the - the - a t time of registration in each birth hbt only the birthdate of the mother but also the birth date of the mother's father and maternal grandparent of the child. It is possible to get data on the age of maternal grandfather of each child at the time fthe conception. This will privode almost automatically minimum amount of c mutation. Evidence on the question as t o whether ornot accumulation One report presented at WHO already arouned very great deal of interest in

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of mutations on the germ line with increasing will not be included i n minutes) %Dunham: continuing with report on Geneva conference: Lepunsky present. Broke i n about weapons testing and c ic rul a ted number of reeeat-- result from testing Bore down heavily on C-14.Spent the ti e giving lectures on the subject. Zeldis heading up pathology. as pathological lab. of.-Finance as t o matter of the US providing funds for building a building on the Univer sity of ---- campus. NAS & AEC .it could .very well be possible. family on . anniversayy of. bombing of Ha... Thinking of cutting back o r may be NCI will support Had discussions with We had 1/2 million dollars in budget this year The tumor registry going along nicely. don't think going t o have new..building;: He had already contacted the Ministry Said this had never been done butif proper represent at iv as by satis fac bor ilya s their existing Hasto be- established as an exception. Talked with economic Atthe Pro Dirs meeting a t CR they agreed to submit their summaries. rei give d on all programs but one. Commission's p2ogram. We will perhaps be included in this and i n essence have a machine approach in re a eg hg - r e - casting,our program i n any way we would like to. t o have the physical sciences incorporated into the Inclusion of the onsite program was discussed with you previously. OTI setting up machine operation for aid in the Above Division. level.dealing almost solely with dose. and we must putin budget i n Jithnston reported on histochemistry and cytochemistry program---- Grahn - R p t on ASNWB

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Temperature, radioactivity, ph into one paper. Individual and add i five effects. 2)Effects on salmon check construction of new reservoir above Hanford. Effects of temperature on C02 I n TVA water studies on density; other - worthwhile top lek on possible Inthe ' report that Hanford prepared i n connection with temperature i f --- the - Yn the = last meetingasked Foster about value placed on the salmon ----- , clear our position with regard t o salmon. important. Effects of by-passing the big ponds a s of flow. Length of time it takes the water to travel 35 miles. Did not mention i n paper something I think Mention no report that we have consiiiered Hanford problem (donkt mention (1)"s tatement of the' hazards to.. fish aid' people; (2) this approach these 5points are There is a potential hazard the program they have outlined should be considered a first step and the committee feels that withbhe knowledge it cannot be current that the first Div.'Of Prod has brought. forward (2)in these exploratory a plan of action for the Endorse o r not the proposed lines of a further investigation that the 1) Wilzbach 2 ) Taylor 3) Puck 4) P a t t 5) Tobias Among my sources outside of medicine and science with one'